can I use OE6 with IE8? by Taka

Posted byTaka on Mon Feb 01 22:54:01 CST 2010 •

hi, my IE7 is getting buggier by the moment.

I would upgrade to IE8, but can I still use Outlook Express
with IE8 or I am stuck with that horrible "Windows Live Mail"
if I upgrade to IE8?

thanks for any compatibility pointers...

Taka

Re: can I use OE6 with IE8? by Kevin •

YES you can use OE6 with IE8. OE6 is completely separate from IE although
it came at the same time as IE6.
hth
"Taka Morobi" <taka@mrobi.com> wrote in message
news:JdO9n.61985$Db2.58958@edtnps83...

hi, my IE7 is getting buggier by the moment.

I would upgrade to IE8, but can I still use Outlook Express
with IE8 or I am stuck with that horrible "Windows Live Mail"
if I upgrade to IE8?

thanks for any compatibility pointers...

Taka

Re: can I use OE6 with IE8? by Alan •

Yes. You don't have to use (or even get) Windows Live Mail.
IE8 does not come with Windows Live Mail.
Please try the IE7/IE8 group for more information.
The recommended newsgroup is microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
In a proper newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
If you must use a web interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:54:01 GMT, in
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser, "Taka Morobi"
<taka@mrobi.com> wrote:

hi, my IE7 is getting buggier by the moment.

I would upgrade to IE8, but can I still use Outlook Express
with IE8 or I am stuck with that horrible "Windows Live Mail"
if I upgrade to IE8?

thanks for any compatibility pointers...

Taka

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Re: 3 Error messages...
- "Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message news:... > Hi again Robear. I did all the suggestions you gave me, including the > Reset, also tested it, and it sitll has the 3 errors. On restarting it, > the anti-malware Hitman Pro found 3 items which I list below in case they > mean anything?: > > atapl.sys > C:\Windows\System32\drivers (rootkit) > > sdra64.exe > C:\Windows\System32\ (malware) > > windir.exe > Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temp (malware) > > > Is there something else that can be done to fix the errors? But meantime, > I'll wait for you to please tell me: > > which of the Adobe Reader v9.3.1 I should download, per my previous email > to you. > > Also, is there another way to get rid of the very long list of Google > history files where the "Delete History" button cannot be seen? > > Thank you very much for all your help! :o) Adela > > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OafX20TzKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> My new computer came with a paid-up McAfee but shortly after I foolishly >>> paid again for Norton on someone's recommendation. At present I have >>> Avira >>> Antivir personal free. >> >> Assuming you uninstalled the McAfee application and the Norton >> application prior to installing Avira AntiVir: >> >> 1a. Download the Norton Removal Tool, saving it to your desktop: >> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe >> >> 1b. Download the McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool, saving it to your >> desktop: >> http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe >> >> 2. Close all open applications (i.e., anything with an icon on the >> taskbar). >> >> 3. Double-click on the file you saved in #1a above to run the utility. >> Don't TOUCH your keyboard until the run completes, then reboot. >> >> 4. Double-click on the file you saved in #1b above to run the utility. >> Don't TOUCH your keyboard until the run completes, then reboot. >> >> 5. Do a Reset per >> http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html >> >> 6. Test to see if you still get the errors. >> >> IN RE Adobe Reader: Uninstall your current version of Adobe Reader >> then... >> >> - Download/install Adobe Reader v9.3.1 via this page: >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=Windows; >> or... >> >> - Download/install Foxit Reader (free) via this page: >> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php >> >> Adela wrote: >>> Hello and thank you Robear! >>> >>>> 1. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed by now? >>> >>> I am getting SP3 as soon as I complete fixing these "infections" (or >>> whatever they are). I'm aware they will discontinue support in July. I >>> also plan on upgrading to IE8 at that time. >>> >>> >>>> 2. Why isn't Adobe Reader v9.3.1 installed? See >>>> http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb10-07.html >>> >>> I thought it updated itself automatically as I vaguely recall ir >>> running...I >>> gues not. Thru the above link you so kindly gave me I learned I have >>> version 8.0.0. and, while they say that one can download if one has >>> version >>> 9.3, they dont' say what to do if one has older versions. Do you happen >>> to >>> know? >>> >>> >>>> 3. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the >>>> computer >>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)? >>> >>> My new computer came with a paid-up McAfee but shortly after I foolishly >>> paid again for Norton on someone's recommendation. At present I have >>> Avira >>> Antivir personal free. >>> >>> >>>> 4. Does the behavior persist after doing a Reset? See >>>> http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html >>> >>> Wow the reset sounds awfully complicated. I noticed that the Internet >>> Option screenshots are different from mine which will cause additional >>> problems. However, if I must, I will do it...with a prayer. LOL! >>> >>> Thank you again! Adela >>> >>> >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23rvZ%23dSzKHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> 1. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed by now? >>>> >>>> NOTE: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After >>>> that date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any >>>> further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and >>>> Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed. >>>> >>>> 2. Why isn't Adobe Reader v9.3.1 installed? See >>>> http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb10-07.html >>>> >>>> 3. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the >>>> computer >>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)? >>>> >>>> 4. Does the behavior persist after doing a Reset? See >>>> http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html >>>> -- >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>>> >>>> >>>> Adela wrote: >>>>> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP2; OE 6; IE 6; MS Office Pro; Avira Antivir >>>>> Personal Free anti-virus; Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; >>>>> 384MB >>>>> RAM; >>>>> high speed cable; WordPerfect8; Lexmark Laser printer "Optra E310"; >>>>> Windows >>>>> Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..] >>>>> >>>>> Hello, I have 3 error msgs that I think may have to do with windows >>>>> and >>>>> IE6; >>>>> if not, please forgive and tell me where to post? They've been making >>>>> my >>>>> life miserable. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> 1. "This program is not responding and it will shut off." (More and >>>>> more >>>>> frequent) >>>>> >>>>> 2. The Google "Delete History" button is covered by a very long list >>>>> ALL >>>>> the way down so I haven't been able to delete it. (Cleaning out >>>>> Internet >>>>> Options doesn't help) >>>>> >>>>> 3. This is only a few days old: "The document has moved, redirect..." >>>>> >>>>> Thanks so much for any suggestions to fix those wretched things. :o) >> > >
3 Error messages...
- [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP2; OE 6; IE 6; MS Office Pro; Avira Antivir Personal Free anti-virus; Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 384MB RAM; high speed cable; WordPerfect8; Lexmark Laser printer "Optra E310"; Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..] Hello, I have 3 error msgs that I think may have to do with windows and IE6; if not, please forgive and tell me where to post? They've been making my life miserable. Thanks. 1. "This program is not responding and it will shut off." (More and more frequent) 2. The Google "Delete History" button is covered by a very long list ALL the way down so I haven't been able to delete it. (Cleaning out Internet Options doesn't help) 3. This is only a few days old: "The document has moved, redirect..." Thanks so much for any suggestions to fix those wretched things. :o) Adela
IE vs. Mozilla
- what's the explanation: when I open my IE I am getting blank page or no connection info page, but I can check my emails through OE mozilla browser shows my home page without any problems what can be the reason for it? -- lb
How to auto make a connection?
- Does anyone have any suggestions on how to automatically make a connection? once IE8 is starting up. I am using XP with SP3 and IE8 Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any suggestions Eric
URL display at bottom - missing
- On my PC I have IE7. When I get an email with an embedded link in it - like I get in say a fraudulant PayPal email - I can hover the cursor over the link and the real address appears at the bottom of the window in the status bar. This address is invariably inconsistent with the link text and this allows me to see that the address is a fraud and that I can ignore / delete the email. However I have just bought a netbook with IE 8 installed. When I opened a fraudulant email - again apparently from PayPal - and hovered the cursor over the embedded link the underlying address did NOT appear at the bottom of the window. So I now have no way of telling if an email is genuine or not. What do I have to do to configure IE 8 to do show embedded addresses before clicking on them please? Thank you - Chris Brady
URL display at bottom - missing
- On my PC I have IE7. When I get an email with an embedded link in it - like I get in say a fraudulant PayPal email - I can hover the cursor over the link and the real address appears at the bottom of the window in the status bar. This address is invariably inconsistent with the link text and this allows me to see that the address is a fraud and that I can ignore / delete the email. However I have just bought a netbook with IE 8 installed. When I opened a fraudulant email - again apparently from PayPal - and hovered the cursor over the embedded link the underlying address did NOT appear at the bottom of the window. So I now have no way of telling if an email is genuine or not. What do I have to do to configure IE 8 to do show embedded addresses before clicking on them please? Thank you - Chris Brady
can only access internet in safe mode with networking
- I am running XP home, SP3, Internet Explorer 8. I have a problem which was the result of some type of virus on the computer. I ran several scans with anti-virus, trojan, and adware programs, each finding some type of minor problem. Since the virus and cleaning I have had no internet in regular mode. The connection status shows that I am connected and firewalled (using windows firewall). I disabled the firewall and the results are the same, no internet. I also have run several regestry checks and repairs and nothing has been able to restore the internet function. Could anyone provide a possible solution to this problem. Thanks, Jeff Programs run: Avast Antivirus Ad-aware Windows online scan Spybot Search and Destroy Smitfraudfix Superantispyware malwarebytes
Corrupt Internet Explorer v 7 - need a fix
- I ended up with a pretty significant malware attack on my XPpro machine and all is pretty much back to where it was, other than Internet Explorer 7. I've tried registry scanners or cleaners, tried the MS solution for uninstall and reinstall (or fix), and tried the sure fire tool I found here: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/repair-internet-explorer-with-fix-ie-utility When I attempt to open IE, I get the "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close" message w/Debug and Close as options. Frankly, I've put so much work into trying to repair it that I'm about through and may just live with other browsers but it does kind of bug me in just not having it working so if there were an easy approach to getting it stable and working again, I'd like to give it a try. I'm assuming re-installing v7 isn't one of those and downloading and installing vIE8 may not be viable. Kind of frustrating so I thought I'd post here for any ideas... TIA
Windows XP and Windows Updates
- having problems getting downloads from Windows Update. Won't download the files it enumerates. BUT, i can individually install the updates if I download them individually. So, it's just when I try to do it via Windows Update. What could the problem be?
IE 8....Has Favorites been change to be more user friendly.
- I just went to a website that said they don't support IE6 anymore. Assume I'll be getting this answer more and more. If I upgrade from IE 6 to IE8 will I get the terrible favorites view rather than the IE6 I am have. IE8 Favorites drive me nuts when I try to save something in that I have to go though the "whole" list of folders rather than be able to zero in on a specific folder. Thanks ! P.S...Sorry about posting in the wrong area. I have them both on my list and guess I clicked on the wrong one.
IE 6 Keeps Closeing
- I keep getting a notice that says "IE has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." It only happens when I try to open my YAHOO e-mail account. I am using Version 6.0.2900.5512. HELP !!
Internet Explorer 8 Connections Configuration
- I want to delete the connections listed under: Tools/Internet Options/Connections/Dial-Up and Virtual Private Network Settings Before I delete them I want to note how they are configured. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance.
My IE is a mess!!
- I think my kids changed a setting in IE because now, the toolbar with File, Edit, View...is GONE, also gone is the bar with Add Favorites, Home, Page... I think it might have happen when I tried to download IE8 and one of my kids did something before it downloaded 100%. Any and all help will be appreciated.
How to block a single web site
- There is a very annoying ad that comes into my computer each time I log on to IE6 from the following site: http://content.pulse360.com/AF7F5454-06AA-11DF-BB59-79A43FF5047F I have gone to Tools-Options-Security-Restrict and tried to block it by adding the above address to the list. However, the list will not accept the characters after the .com/ and the ads still appear. I have XP HE sp3 in the computer with IE6. I also have NIS 2010 installed. Certainly there should be someway to block those ads, I just do not know how. dsc
IE Content AdvisorRequires Password Each Time Site Is Visited
- IE Content Advisor Requires Password Each Time Site Is Visited Have IE Content Advisor Set To Prompt For Admin PW & This Works Well. However, IE Content Advisor Requires Password Each Time The Same Site IS Visited Even After Picking â??Always Allow This Site To BE Viewedâ?? OR â??Always Allow Web Page To Be Viewed? Believe it is a setting within Content Advisor but would appreciate any assistance Thank You In Advance â?¦ JimB
On-line Browser vulnerabilty-test website: Windows 98 / IE6 / FF2.20 /
- This website: Browser Security Test http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ Allows users to subject their computer/browser to a selection of synthetic exploits as follows: - user selectable tests / exploits - test only exploits known to affect the user's particular browser - all tests for all known exploits There are 19 tests in total. See below for a summary of them. I ran these tests 3 times - once against each of the installed browsers on my win-98se system. I did not have any AV program or any form of browser-protection program running on my test system. ------------- Test results ------------- Browser name: Firefox/2.0.0.12 Navigator Version: 9.0.0.6 Platform: Windows 98 Congratulations! The test has found no vulnerabilities in your browser! Browser name: Firefox Version: 2.0.0.20 Platform: Windows 98 Congratulations! The test has found no vulnerabilities in your browser! Browser name: MSIE Version: 6.0 Platform: Windows 98 Congratulations! The test has found no vulnerabilities in your browser! During the IE6 test, I was asked to download / run these two files: crashy2.xul (a small script file) path-neg.svg (another small script file) The second file seems to be a very old IE5/IE6 exploit, as described here: http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm012-ie/ Neither of the above 2 files, when submitted to VirusTotal, are detected as threats by any of the 42 AV apps hosted on that site. Note the stats (% vulnerable browsers): http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/stats.php ------------------ Summary of tests ------------------ Windows animated cursor overflow (CVE-2007-0038) (This test may trigger anti-virus warnings) Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (CVE-2007-0777) Internet Explorer bait & switch race condition (CVE-2007-3091) Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (CVE-2007-2867) Internet Explorer createTextRange arbitrary code execution (CVE-2006-1359) Windows MDAC ADODB ActiveX control invalid length (CVE-2006-5559) Adobe Flash Player video file parsing integer overflow (CVE-2007-3456) XMLDOM substringData() heap overflow (CVE-2007-2223) Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.5) (CVE-2007-3734) Opera JavaScript invalid pointer arbitrary code execution (CVE-2007-436) Apple QuickTime MOV file JVTCompEncodeFrame heap overflow (CVE-2007-2295) Mozilla code execution via QuickTime Media-link files (CVE-2006-4965) Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.8) ( CVE-2007-533) Mozilla memory corruption vulnerabilities (rv:1.8.1.10) (CVE-2007-5959) Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.12) (CVE-2008-0412) Apple QuickTime 'QTPlugin.ocx' ActiveX Control Multiple Buffer Overflows () Window location property cross-domain scripting (CVE-2008-2947) Mozilla Firefox MathML integer overflow (CVE-2008-4061) Internet Explorer XML nested SPAN elements memory corruption (CVE-2008-4844) Meb will no doubt respond to this post by frothing and spewing one excuse after another why these tests should not be believed or taken as evidence that Win-98 combined with old/legacy browsers are not vulnerable to common exploitation.
Inside the Excruciatingly Slow Death of Internet Explorer 6
- http://gizmodo.com/5483186/inside-the-excruciatingly-slow-death-of-internet-explorer-6 It's the bane of Web designers everywhere, and it makes most modern Websites look broken and horrible. So why are 20% of web surfers still using it? Today was supposed to be a great day for the Web. As of March 1, 2010, Google will no longer support Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6 browser-a decade-old dinosaur engineered to navigate the Web as it existed in the year 2000. Why would this be cause for celebration? Because IE6 is barely capable of navigating the modern Web and a total nightmare to build sites, services and applications for. But ten years after its release, it's still being used by an estimated 20% of surfers. And while Google's move is one in the right direction, I'm not breaking out the whiskey and noisemakers for IE6's funereal wake quite yet. Sadly, IE6 isn't going away for good anytime soon. Those unfamiliar with the Internet Explorer 6 saga might be wondering what the big deal is. How could the life or death of one browser be so critical to the future of our increasingly Internet-based lives? When compared to browsers of today, IE6 is a standards-incompliant antique. It debuted during a dark, dark period in Web history; In the summer of 2001, Microsoft had soundly beaten Netscape into submission for a 90% lock on the browser market and was in the uniquely powerful position to decide which Web standards it would ignore, which it would integrate, which it would halfway adopt and which it would simply make up. And IE6 is the bastard child of this hubris. It doesn't behave like any other browser on the market because it doesn't interpret Cascading Style Sheets or JavaScript according to the universal standards set by organizations like the W3C. I've heard of developers spending anywhere between 20% and 50% of their time on a project making a site work in Internet Explorer 6. I know of many others who simply chop out advanced features, enhanced interactivity and slick design elements altogether, just so their work doesn't "break" in IE6. Why do they bother? Because nearly a decade after it shipped with Windows XP, IE6 still commands a mind-blowing 20% market share for browsers, according to the most recent statistics compiled by NetMarketShare. That's more than double the shares of Chrome and Safari combined, and just shy of Firefox's 24% piece of the pie. And that's only Internet Explorer 6. Combined with its better-behaving but by no means perfect descendants, IE7 and IE8, Internet Explorer as a whole owns 62% of the browser market. Now, browser market share is not an inexact science and the numbers vary widely from site to site and country to country, but you get the picture. The longevity of IE6 is the result of a perfect storm of unfortunate factors. First among them: Microsoft's IE division simply fell asleep. Having emerged the undisputed victor of the late '90s browser wars, Microsoft had virtually no competitors and so no incentive to fix any of IE6's bugs. It took Microsoft more than five years to release IE7, which was an improvement over IE6, but still a disappointment for Web designers and developers. Five years! In the five years between 2004 and 2009, Mozilla released three versions of Firefox (actually, 3.5 versions to be exact). Meanwhile, Chrome has gone through four iterations in just over a year. In those five years between IE6 and IE7, technological progress on the Web was severely hobbled to say the least. After all, who cares if Firefox can do something really cool if only a handful of users will ever see it? But Internet Explorer 7 did eventually come out, and so did Internet Explorer 8, Firefox, Safari, Chrome and new versions of Opera. And yet, IE6 remains the second most popular browser in the world (behind IE8). What gives? The chief reason Internet Explorer 6 keeps hanging on is because people are using it at work or on work computers. As anyone who's ever used a computer furnished by their employer can attest, IT departments are slow to make any changes that might disrupt the delicate balance of their electronic ecosystems. And they sure as hell aren't going to let you upgrade or install anything yourself. Making matters worse, Internet Explorer 6 is deeply embedded in the infrastructures of countless corporations worldwide. Back when IE6 was the only game in town, businesses invested in Intranets and browser-based apps that functioned only in IE. Why bother with anything else? Five years later, of course, a lot of businesses learned the hard way that "IE-only" actually meant "IE6-only." Oops. Now, ask yourself how much interest corporations have in re-investing more capital to fix something that, in their eyes, isn't broken. The answer is: not much. A recent article on Dell's IT Expert Voice blog cited another reason your company doesn't upgrade to IE8 or another browser: user control. Your bosses don't want you on Facebook and YouTube, and they know that the experience of visiting these sites with IE6 will be painful enough to limit your time on them. They effectively block you without coming off as overtly Orwellian. Win win. Finally, there are the countless folks who simply don't know any better-a contingent I was reminded of by David Walsh, a developer for the Mootools Javascript framework (for which IE6 support remains a priority). "When it comes to Internet Explorer 6, developers ask, ?God, why do people choose to stay with it?'" he says. "But, I like to remind them that users don't care and shouldn't have to care. The one example I give is my grandmother. She doesn't know what a browser is. She just knows that when she clicks the little blue ?e' on her desktop she gets to see the Internet." It's not just grannies, either. I was using the computer of a 30-something year-old friend recently and mentioned my surprise to see him still using IE6. He asked me why it even mattered. If people aren't allowed to upgrade or have no idea that they need to, then does the Google announcement inch us any closer to an IE6-free Web today than we were yesterday? "It's an important first step that I'm quite happy about," Walsh says. "But, I don't think it would be wise for developers to say, ?Well, Google is doing it so I'm going to do it too.' I foresee at least another year or two of having to support Internet Explorer 6." I'm less optimistic than Walsh, and that's thanks mostly to Microsoft's pledge to support IE6 until April 8, 2014-the day it officially ends support for Windows XP, the OS it was bundled with. As much as it pains me, I have to give Microsoft a tiny bit of respect for doing this. Though the company wouldn't provide comment for this story, it pointed me to a blog post explaining the method behind this madness. "Dropping support for IE6 is not an option because we committed to supporting the IE included with Windows for the lifespan of the product. We keep our commitments. Many people expect what they originally got with their operating system to keep working whatever release cadence particular subsystems have." Microsoft is basically taking the exact opposite approach to upgrades that Apple takes, which is to upgrade quickly at the expense of its users (Snow Leopard on G5, anyone?). For its own part, Microsoft would be happy to see you stop using IE6, too. In another blog post, the company says, "Think about what technology and the Internet were like in the year 2000 ? and consider how they've evolved since then. In 2000, ?phishing' was something that happened at the lake, not online. There was no social networking, no RSS feeds, and no real blogs. It was a different time ? and people's browsing needs were different." The post goes on to explicitly recommend moving off of IE6. The problem is, corporate IT departments won't do so until they absolutely must, which may be well after the April 2014 death knell sounds. If Microsoft was smart, it would actively help businesses upgrade their IE6-based systems to IE8 (and future versions). And they would do it for free. Why? Because IE's very survival could be at stake. If Microsoft doesn't, then Google could certainly afford to offer similar support for companies to move their systems over to Chrome. Overnight, we could see Chrome's market share balloon to 30% and all versions of Internet Explorer shrink to below 40%. Walsh points out that Explorer's market share is being further threatened by empowered Web developers and a more educated Web-going public. "There's this assumption that people are going to go straight from Internet Explorer 6 to Internet Explorer 7 or 8," he says. "But, the thing we have to realize is that browsers as a whole have become more popular. Five years ago, most people probably didn't know what a browser was, but more and more they're able to indentify them. And as Web sites drop IE6 support, developers are going to steer people toward the browsers they like. Firefox, Chrome and Safari are going to be pitched a lot more than IE and I think those browsers have a good chance at being the next step for people." But IE6 is something many Web developers will have to tangle with for years to come. For any Web site considering following Google unto the breach, I ask you to remember a few things. First, Google.com isn't going to suddenly stop working for folks using IE6. By dropping support, Google is saying that future upgrades to sites and services like YouTube, Gmail and Google Docs will no longer prioritize IE6 compatibility. Second, let your user base determine your course of action. David Walsh's blog, for example, is targeted at professional Web designers and developers. "My Website is 1% IE6," he says. "So I don't really care about it." (Only 5% of PopSci users are on IE6). But, you can believe a site like the New York Times will care about IE6 until the bitter end. No matter what you do, consider this comment to one the above-mentioned Microsoft blog posts: "I work for a large financial services company with 40,000+ employees. And yes, every desktop PC and laptop runs WinXP and IE6. More than 85% of all browsing is intranet. Basic news sites etc deliver the information without the frills. For our vendors who offer Web portals (eg home loan valuations, stationery suppliers etc) - we'll simply dump them if we can't access their sites after a ?no-IE6 revamp.'" So, there it is. Continue at your own risk. And in the meantime, IE6's celebratory funerals might be in haste.
Upgrading to IE7
- 1. Can I install IE7 directly over IE6, thereby keeping all my settings and Favorites? 2. Is it preferable to uninstall IE6 before installing IE7? If so, how do I keep my settings and Favorites? 3. A lot of the folders that my IE6 works out of are still labelled IE5.5...Is this going to stay that way unless I do a coplete uninstall of IE? 4. Since IE and OE used to come together, would uninstalling IE6 have any effect on my OE (e.g., addresses, folders, etc.)? I am on Windows XP Professional SP2 and have been strongly advised by a computer technician not to install SP3 because of all the havoc it has wreaked for so many people. I have all the info on how to install SP3 and IE6,7,8, but have been putting it off because I am scared (paralyzed) of SP3....:-(....Is it true that after After 12 April 2010 I won't get any updates if I don't have SP3...? Thanks for the help! Janet
Performance Issues IE7/8 make development a headache
- This isn't an anti IE rant, quite the opposite. I'm a developer and these are my frustrations in seeing how the applications and interfaces I write perform in the other two major browsers, Firefox 3.6 and Chrome 4 as opposed to how they (sort of) perform in IE 8. I'm not talking about incompatibility whatsoever. It's not like I'm complaining about the lack of the ability to use the <video> tag or something. I'm talking purely about the perfomance and response times of totally IE compatible javascript applications. The performance difference between IE 8 and the other two major browsers, Firefox and Chrome, is staggering. I find I'm writing applications now that I know just won't work in IE 8, not because of a lack of support, or a need for browser specific code, but because IE 8 will just slow to a crawl even though the other major browsers handle it with ease. IE is still the most used browser, and I'd like to be able to make sites that I know can function on it as well as any other browser. The other option is just to dumb down the applications and interfaces to be able to work on IE, in essence moving backwards. I'd like to see a much improved javascript engine in IE 9 and a much faster development cycle.
IE8 problem with flash player blinking
- Hi My problem is that when I watching pages that including flash the page and pictures starts blinking specially when I move the mouse or scroll the page Im running win 7, IE 8 and the latest flash player. If I disable flash player the blinking stops but then youtube is for no use ;) Has anyone a solution for this problem? Best Regards
upgrade from IE6 - installation of IE7 or IE8
- Dear Sir/Madam I was on XP PRO version 2002 SP3 with IE8 for some months now. Suddenly the IE8 went dead a couple of weeks ago. IE8 was "never" on the add-remove program list. In the process of setting things right, I removed SP3, tried to reinstall all windows updates and IE8 or IE7. IE installation fails at the language pacck / admin tools kit installation with the creation of a link on desktop "IETroubleshooting" which takes me to micosoft's FIXIT - which is of no help either. Can you please guide and suggest me if there is a way to get me back on track with SP3- IE8 without a clean installation of the OS ? All the spywar /malware/ antivirus / system cleaners/microsoft MRT/ all.. reported my system clean. Right now... I'm running windows/xp sp3 and IE 6.0.2900.5512.xp_sp3_gdr.91208- 2036IC Thank you...
Table tag refuses to obey the CSS text-align property in non-compatibility mode in Internet Explorer 8
- I have several locations on my site that have tables inside elements such as divs that specify the text-align:center; CSS property. When IE8 is not in compatibility mode, this is ignored by tables that are children of the tag the property is specified in. I have only noticed this with table tags. Here is a simple page I have written to demonstrate this: <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head><title></title></head> <body> <div style="text-align:center;"> <table><tr><td>Table</td></tr></table> </div> </body> </html> When you run this in IE8, be sure to try viewing it in compatibility and non-compatibility mode. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that when following standards, text-align:center; should center any children. If IE6, IE7, and IE8 Compatibility Mode follow this simple standard, why would Microsoft not follow the standard in IE8's non-compatibility mode? Is this a bug, is there some reason I don't know of, or is there really something wrong with my code? Thanks. -- Nathan Sokalski njsokalski@hotmail.com http://www.nathansokalski.com/
Internet Explorer 6.0.02800.1106
- Windows 2000 on two computers. running Internet Explorer 6.0.02800.1106 on both. Works fine on one and the other computer clicking on same link brings up an error page. Happens on several different page links. What to do? Uninstall and reinstall --- but how? Did run updates... Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Automatically Filling Forms
- I am an end user of a custom application the runs on IE. One of the windows contains a form that requires the same information in four fields everytime. Is there a way to set up something to automatically fill this info in?
Problems with IE 8
- I currently am running IE 6 however there are a number of sites that I go to frequently that just don't function properly. I would like to upgrade to IE 8 but I had such problems with IE 7, especially regarding Outlook Express that I'm concerned about installing IE 8. I've also read about problems with IE 8 as well. Is there any justification for my concern?
ToolBars
- while using IE version 600.2900. I lose all the toolbars except the top bar which is not a toolbar. I then have to restart IE, does anyone have the fix for this, re-installing is not the answer,thanks to all With kind regards From WillofAustralia
Maximum Character Limit on the USerAgent String in IE 6
- Hi, I am trying to access a web application which only supports IE version 5.01 and above. In order to perform this check we use USerAgent string to check the IE version and then allow the users to access the application. While testing we found out that on Windows XP IE 6.0 when the user agent is beyong 256 character length, the rest of the useragent string is getting truncated and it is only returning Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;). However this is not the case with IE 7.0 and IE 8.0. Is this a known issue in IE 6.0 and do this have any workaroound? Any pointers to this or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks & regards, Ashwin
Upgrade to IE8 Reasons for/against
- I'm running windows/xp sp3 and IE6 6.0.2900.5512. I'm considering upgrading to IE8, primarily due to security concerns. 1. Will my computer truly be more secure with ie8 than with ie6? I keep up to date on all MS updates. 2. Does ie8 run on windows/xp? 3. I'm already memory-constrained. Will that be even more of a problem with ie8? 4. I'm already processor-constrained: intel 2.something pentium. Will that be even more of a problem with ie8. 5. Will I be able to revert to ie6 if I install ie8 and find it unacceptable? TIA, Phil
per-user initialisation
- Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade. Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started manually? We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications, and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will not be able to navigate the help. I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon to a desktop is done.
auto log on
- A lot of sites have the auto logon/remember me box to check if wanted. I click the box and IE doesn't remember the next time, is there a tweak to it somewhere? tks all bw I also use XP Home Edition Serv P 3
Google
- Google has announced that it is phasing out support for IE6. This will cause a problem for those with older OSs. No word on older Firefox etc. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics!
can I use OE6 with IE8?
- hi, my IE7 is getting buggier by the moment. I would upgrade to IE8, but can I still use Outlook Express with IE8 or I am stuck with that horrible "Windows Live Mail" if I upgrade to IE8? thanks for any compatibility pointers... Taka
ie7 won't connect to 'net
- hi, ie7 has been acting strange lately. i use it for previewing web designs in Dreamweaver on the local computer, which is fine. But when I try to connect to an internet site, it seems to stall on "connecting" and never gets the site up. I tried deleting IE7 from Zone Alarms prog list once; that worked temporarily. Then same problem came back. I've also deleted all offline files, cookies, etc. thanks for any pointers... Taka
Computer Optimization
- Many problems with performance and safety of your computer can be solved easily with an updated antivirus and recognized. 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